Tuesday, February 06, 2007

Eating our young.

If scientific world was studied by aliens from out of space the way we study animals and birds and insects, they would be appalled to find that we "give birth" (figuratively speaking) to a few dozen of offsprings, most of which are raised in harsh and brutal environment to be expoited for about a decade only to be eaten (once again, figuratively) by us later. This makes me rather depressed and angry at the system, where a lot of faculty are obviously blind to these simple facts. Those who "survived" the battle of the fittest and made it to the top of the food chain (in academic world) very quickly forget what it's like to be a grad student or a postdoc. I am forgetting already...

A basic calculation goes something like this - in my field we have about 4 students per faculty for most departments. Typically a well-sized department has 30-40 faculty and 120-150 students.
Considering that it takes 6-7 years to get PhD, but most faculty careers last from when they are 30 well into their 70ies, an average faculty goes through 20-30 students in their career. I know someone who graduated his 100th PhD student, so some people have larger groups, obviously, while others have little or no students.

But since the departments don't undergo any significant expansion (not since Sputnik years), this means that an entering graduate student has only about 3-5% chance of ever getting a tenure-track faculty position. A fact that is not advertised openly to entering grad students.
These numbers are a lot better for top schools, but some second-tier schools (or even schools that don't get ranked in top 15-20 or so) have less than 1% chance of making fundamental scientific research their career.

Someone might point out that there are other, "alternative" careers for PhDs, but let's be honest - that's not what the students are being trained for. In fact in many fields the opportunities for industrial or government lab research are quite minimal (astronomy or high energy/nuclear physics, for example), and other non-conventional jobs (such as Wall Street quant, "consultants" at places like McKinsey or even a community college/high school teacher are utilizing a small fraction of skills obtained in grad school plus whatever subsequent postdoc stints one goes through).

Seems like we want to have it both ways - we like to pretend that we are "teaching" grad students some important skills and they will thank us for this later, while in reality they are an incredibly cheap labor force (and postdocs too, albeit slightly more qualified and slightly better paid), and can be manipulated to do just about anything because faculties pay their miserable salaries and decide when they get their degrees.

This is also why I am so disgusted with certain attitudes in hiring new faculty or new staff members (if we are talking about the parallel universe of national labs). The attitude is basically - we created a situation when there are hundreds of candidates desperately applying for every position available, and because we can afford to be so selective, we can scoop the best of the best of the best, invite them for a song-and-dance presentation ("Impress me!" approach), and treat the rest of applicants who didn't make the shortlist cut as garbage not worthy our attention. The arbitrary nature of selection process never ceases to amaze me, even though it's remarkable how programs that are not even nationally ranked can attract people with stellar research records (as far as I am concerned) in hope that they may get desperate enough to accept a position that utilizes those skills in a very marginal fashion, if at all. It's as if classically trained opera singers were hired to sing catchy commercial tunes at a supermarket to attract more customers for minimum wage pay.

Therefore, I find it somewhat disingenuous when people start talking about how to encourage certain underrepresented groups enter graduate schools in sciences. We should encourage interest in science, but should we encourage more bright and talented people to follow the career path that has 95% chance of leading nowhere (after 6-7 years of living on Raman noodles through grad school and relocating a few times for a couple of 3 year postdoc stints that quickly become the norm)? I am not so sure...

Just pondering (but mostly ranting)...

5 comments:

thm said...

In grad school, about 8 or 9 years ago, after an AIP report about faculty hiring came out, I did a little calculation. The ratio of annual new faculty hires at Ph.D. granting institutions to annual number of physics Ph.D.s is approximately the same as the ratio of rookies in the NBA to the number of senior Division 1 NCAA basketball players. In other words, a new physics Ph.D. has about as good a chance of getting a research-based faculty job as a D-1 basketball player has of making it to the NBA.

(I think the sports analogy could be extended further: I think both physics and basketball, or most other sports, have similarly shaped ability spectra.)

Abi said...

Good rant! Very valid too.

I'm sure you are aware of a similar rant by Jonathan Katz. The date stamp on that page says it's from 1999!

Kristin said...

Just learned of your blog today. I'm a female ex-physicist with an agenda of making sure that young women are informed about what the lifestyle of physics and the odds of making it really are.

It really steams me when I hear politicians talk about how we need to increase the number of women going into physics, and I certainly think that women are plenty capable of learning physics--I'm not a natural-born geek, but I had the drive to learn physics, which is why I believe that it doesn't take a genius--but I don't think that politicians really know what the numbers are like. As you say, the vast majority of physics graduate students are not going to become professors. Some will be happy to leave physics, as I was, but others might be disappointed to learn that they got screwed in this pyramid scheme (and someone has to get screwed).

Hey, I'm sure it's great to be one of the ones who makes it! But that's what's great about the blogosphere--frank talk can help to dispel some of the magical thinking out there and help people to decide a better way to spend their youth.

I'll be writing about different aspects of this and related matters in the blog www.shessuchageek. Come check us out!

Incoherent Ponderer said...

I will try to post more on these topics, there is very little feedback between the entry and the exit of "meatgrinder" so to speak.

To be honest - I am a very optimistic person and gererally not easy to turn bitter at all - otherwise I would not have survived thus far. So when I am bitter about something, there's got to be a good reason for it.

It's possible to stay optimistic but also be realistic about things, to avoid getting disappointed later.

Anonymous said...

Indeed, the garbage treatment is right on the money! For a faculty application one school that shall go nameless wanted a recommendation letter in a pdf file, and then also a paper version of the same thing since they probably wanted a nice complete folder for shredding later. Pure hoop jumping, the more the marrier!